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Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2011.09.29 17:22:00 -
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This sandbox full of short bus applicants will suck significantly less (but still suck) when Mittins doesn't get his entitled 'I am the CSM' way and leaves, taking his horde of fukung/b-wannabe/pre-pubescent/meme pasting bookends with him. |
Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2011.09.29 17:22:00 -
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reserved for "u mad, bro" combat |
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Posted - 2011.09.29 17:57:00 -
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f the coordinated wrong and the definition rewrite. how about a 30 byte addendum to the eula with something to the effect of "we reserve to smack the **** out of groups who condone or look the other way concerning botting". I'm sure your lawyers can reword that with style.
ps. the Somethingawful children are coordinated tick spawn, just as Eve University are coordinated puppy farts (re: powerblock issue voting). |
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Posted - 2011.09.29 19:48:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:Homo Erectus wrote:f the coordinated wrong and the definition rewrite. how about a 30 byte addendum to the eula with something to the effect of "we reserve to smack the **** out of groups who condone or look the other way concerning botting". I'm sure your lawyers can reword that with style.
ps. the Somethingawful children are coordinated tick spawn, just as Eve University are coordinated puppy farts (re: powerblock issue voting). We already reserve that right...
ok then stop with the fluffy posturing and push their stuff in. the goon memo is apples to apples and not only is it an admission of looking the other way, it's a threat of punishment if someone doesn't. and at this point you can follow up with the virtual groin kick with a real life finger to mittins. $$ in the pocket bringing them in, now you look like hostages.
i honestly dont see how you people aren't as tossed off in your ccp offices about this as we were when your internal **** got out. the csm czar supposed to be representing us to you, clowning us both.
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Posted - 2011.09.29 20:00:00 -
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Vile rat wrote:Consider this an official GSF response to this garbage thread.
We do not condone botting. We think it is destructive to the game. We tell people not to bot and strongly discourage it because it's stupid and easily caught, not to mention it cheapens the effort of players who play the game the way it was meant to be. We are also not CCP's policemen. It is not our job to police botting or EULA breaking activities in the game, this is CCP's job. CCP Sreegs is doing a wonderful job policing this and we support his actions. Asking a playerbase to police EULA infractions is dumb and it is not our place. There is a report bot mechanism, we encourage people to use it.
wtf is wrong with you? no one said it was your job you idiot. no one thinks you wear a shiny police-style badge. but, how about this for the CSM badge you do wear (and for the other goonfgt CSM badge):
In what country on this planet do you think an elected official could get away with "I'm not a cop" when he was grilled about not picking up the phone and calling the cops when he saw a hit and run occur in front of his house? |
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Posted - 2011.09.29 20:08:00 -
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Vile rat wrote:
watch me dodge a valid point like a pro goon forum fgt
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Posted - 2011.09.29 20:18:00 -
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i'm no one's friend and as vile rat knows i've never tried to be.
but don't alt-backup a goon csm post when they get called out. you put on the csm badge, don't pull the "we're not policemen"
No, you're not, and no one said you were, and no one elected you to be. But leading a 50,000,000 conglomeration of zombies with a "we're not policemen, and look the other way at blue bots" doesn't make anyone with 2 eyes happy. |
Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2011.09.29 20:47:00 -
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^^ obviously my alt btw sorry- headed for recruiting fora
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Posted - 2011.09.29 21:15:00 -
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I think you're missing the irritation. If best I could quote the wtf it would be:
GoonSwarm Federation Alliance Update wrote:we have one rule in Goonswarm: we donGÇÖt **** other goons.
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Vile rat wrote:Consider this an official GSF response to this garbage thread.
We do not condone botting. We think it is destructive to the game.
So if a goon was being destructive to the game, would you break your one rule? If you throw in the repeated "we are not police" blow-offs, what do you think people think the answer to that question would be? |
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Posted - 2011.09.30 00:14:00 -
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Woo Glin wrote:I hope you're kidding.
I think the right goon/b/fukung meme to use for that is the one with the joker and the "not sure if serious" on it
edit- John Caesse beat me to it so he gets a facebook thumbs up |
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Posted - 2011.09.30 00:35:00 -
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it used to be back in the day way more goons would show up to a thread to offtrack it. there's only like 5 of you in this one. wtf happened did those kids get jobs or something? can one of you guys quote/troll me before i start going through the archives please |
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Posted - 2011.09.30 00:36:00 -
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good boy |
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Posted - 2011.09.30 00:52:00 -
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Misteek Eternal wrote: Something about all this seems very farmiliar. Something about a large group getting called out for cheating/exploiting/whatever. Some DEV favoritism thrown around in there too a little I see. Funny how the ones on the block now are the ones that cried foul way back then. I think I`m going to go look up that old Outbreak video, Karma i believe its name was.
insert troll here |
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Posted - 2011.09.30 02:36:00 -
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all the goons being fgts has sidelines the possibility of goons being fgts. it works |
Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2011.09.30 13:44:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Vile rat wrote:Just stopping by this horrible thread to point out that the report bot function is anonymous to users and doesn't send a little flag to to the ceo or anything ok well later gator. No, it sends the "Player X reported Y as a suspected bot" message to CCP Sreegs who is a Goon.
I'm going to step away from the disgusting suggestion CCP Darius JOHNSON would for some reason show any type of favoritism towards Goonswarm. Because that is just nonsense. I'll bet he has one rule, and that is not to **** other CCP. |
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Posted - 2011.09.30 17:12:00 -
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Andrea Griffin wrote:Catching botters is hard. It's always a game of cat and mouse with those guys. Just when you catch onto something and go, "Ah ha! Got you!" the botters will find some new way to make your life miserable. It's just like the antivirus industry. The people writing good malware are really smart. It takes someone just as smart to rip apart their stuff, figure out how it all works, and then figure out how to fix it all.
the above is 100% correct and I was 100% incorrect about this whole botting thing would stop if CCP prioritized it. I spoke with someone last evening who has a unique perspective on the situation and here is some of the chatter:
<@frst> in your opinion
<@frst> is it just not possible to stop the bots
<@frst> i mean
<%Entity> you cannot stop the bots. as long as there is an incentive to automate things, people will automate it. Diablo3 beta already had bots in development the day it went friends&family beta.
<%Entity> you can get better at detecting patterns and stuff, but ultimately, botters always win
<%Entity> all one can do is raise the bar
<@frst> well
<@frst> would you say the best course of action is basically
<@frst> as is?
<%Entity> ?
<%Entity> as in take them for granted?
<@frst> no i mean
<@frst> do you think the "reporting bots" thing they have going
<@frst> is as good as it gets?
<%Entity> I don't think CCP has the technical expertise to implement a mechanism like the Warden for WoW, but even that is not without its flaws. Report feature is a good one because humans are generally better at picking out suspicious behaviour
<%Entity> even if it means investigating a lot of false positives
<%Entity> so yeah for the time being it's probably as good as it gets.
<%Entity> you can throw heuristic approaches at it, like, mine data for patterns. undock, warp, dock every 5 minutes over 12 hours would be a dead giveaway (but no guarantee) etc.
<%Entity> it's an ongoing arms race
<%Entity> and the real problem is
<%Entity> - bots are profitable
<%Entity> - bots are a hell of a lot of fun to make, for a programmer
<%Entity> so even barring profitability, people will still do it just for the sake of the challenge
All this other crap in thread seems to really be just that, crap. Even my crap is crap.
In the end it would just be really nice if the largest playerbase in the game, which included a couple CSMs didn't have the stand point of "we're not CCP's police" and "goons don't **** goons" when dealing with the botting issue. This seems to actually be one of those, if we want to help fix the situation, we do have to do something about it. |
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